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Posted on 2005.04.05 at 23:01
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I saw Sin City this weekend. I didn't know that there was that much ass for a movie to kick. I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Somehow, I get the feeling that a lot of people aren't going to enjoy it as much. Anyone else see it? Yes? No? Like? Not?

Comments:


funkyirishjew at 2005-04-06 04:14 (UTC) (Link)
i will own it.

it was to noir what expresso is to coffee.

concentrated goodness
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-06 08:11 (UTC) (Link)
ooo well put.
metalclarinet
metalclarinet at 2005-04-06 04:25 (UTC) (Link)
Saw the movie over the weekend. I read the frank miller book about the yellow bastard perhaps a year ago. My younger son reads a lot of graphic novels & comix. Or anyway, he studies the art and draws.

I expect that this will be a very influential film, much like Star Wars. The look is so unique and so compelling that lots of film types will be borrowing this or that. Note that it is getting some great reviews. However, there is going to have to be a lot of buzz before older folks show up in droves. I have been suggesting the movie around the office and people stare at me the way people did 30 years ago when you recommended eating raw fish.

Trivia: The credit for the priest in the confessional is Frank Miller.

Also, I couldn't figure the final scene. Neither could the people I went with -- it wasn't in the book. I woke up in the middle of the night and realized -- or imagined, I am not really sure -- that the guy was the same guy from the opening sequence. Ahh, that would explain things.

One caveat: my ability to predict trends in culture is suspect. Exhibit 1) I predicted that VCRs would not catch on. Exhibit 2: I loved Popeye, starring Robin Williams. I was convinced everyone was going to end up dressing like like the bad guys. Well, I do, and it drives my kids nuts.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-06 08:15 (UTC) (Link)
I think that the opening scene was from a random Sin City short story that didn't make it into any of the graphic novels (or any of the ones I have, anyway), and that the ending was just sort of a bookend with it.
I did see Popeye when it came out, but I think I was 10 at the time, so I don't remember how the bad guys dressed. I will have to look that up, somehow. I will have to do it in such a way that doesn't require viewing of the film.
metalclarinet
metalclarinet at 2005-04-07 02:21 (UTC) (Link)
Basically, the thugs looked like bears in sweaters. Big, bulky sweaters and large blocky shoes. Maybe a little 1930s bread-line look to it. Of course, they filmed in Newfoundland, and the whole island has a 1930s bread-line look. (OK, I have only been to the western side, but with the collapse of the fisheries, I would guess the east coast is even worse.)

I rented Popeye for my kids (a decade ago). They were not impressed and I didn't like it as much as when I first saw it. (Maybe big screen vs tv thing.) I'm not going to recommend you get it.

The best part was Robin Williams singing the Popeye song when they rolled the credits. He looked drunk. I don't know if the following is the original, but I did transcribe the movie version of the song. (Time for a rap or delta blues cover.)


I'm Popeye the Sailor Man
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man
I'm strong to the finich
Cause I eats me spinach
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man

I'm one tough gazookus
Which hates all palookas
Wot ain't on the ups and square
I biffs 'em and buffs 'em
An' always out-roughs 'em
An' none of 'em gets no where

If anyone dasses to risk me fisk
It's "boff" and its "wham", un'erstand
So, keep good behavior
That's your one life saver
With Popeye the Sailor Man.

I'm Popeye the Sailor Man
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man
I'm strong to the finich
Cause I eats me spinach
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man

So lets see -- exaggerated, acrobatic violence; nearly indestructible lunks who are shaped like diesel engines; ineffectual or corrupt officials and police; women who really run the show, good guys who are bad guys but with hearts of gold; cruelty when you have someone down. Looks to me like Sin City is an updated version of Popeye!
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-07 02:23 (UTC) (Link)
Those are the original words.

I would say that Sin City was fueled by cheap liquor and cigarettes, not cocaine.
metalclarinet
metalclarinet at 2005-04-07 03:19 (UTC) (Link)
Cocaine? Was spinach some sort of coded reference to cocaine? (hmmm Robin Williams? Cocaine? That sounds vaguely familiar.)

Interesting question: Do movies like Sin City encourage kids to smoke & drink? Every time you saw lips, a cigarette showed up. I don't remember any brands. I don't guess this was a film that made a lot of money from product placements -- unless Detroit is planning to start pushing large trunks this fall.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-07 03:23 (UTC) (Link)
I dunno. Theoretically, kids shouldn't be able to see it.
I read that it was relatively cheap to make, since it was done with CGI backgrounds, so with no location shooting and thus a small crew.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-07 02:25 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, my Mom was born and spent her first few years in St. Johns... I will have to ask her about the appearance of the criminal element in NF.
Wrapped up in books
dithie at 2005-04-06 04:26 (UTC) (Link)
cbc (canada's radio station) had not so good things to say about it. they said it exploited the genres it was making reference to rather than paying homage to them. as such, the reviewer found the violence heartless rather than thought-provoking. he also had criticisms about the women in the movie being portrayed as either frail victims or dominatrix style hot ass-kickers. i don't think i'm going to see it, but my boy did and he probably liked it.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-06 08:16 (UTC) (Link)
He knows better than to tell you whether he liked it?
Wrapped up in books
dithie at 2005-04-06 13:26 (UTC) (Link)
haven't talked to him about whether he did or didn't at the time.
i have now, and he's somewhat ambivalent towards it.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-06 13:32 (UTC) (Link)
Ambivalent?
Hmmmn. That's one I wasn't expecting.
That CBC review you quoted bugged me. They didn't realize that it was, in some sense, a work of Pop Art- you are supposed to enjoy the visual effects. And yeah, what they said about the women is true, but the men aren't multi-dimensional either; they are corrupt cops, antiheroes, or hired killers. Or some combination of those. The main distinction is between those characters that have a heart of gold, and those that don't.
The violence is like that in Kill Bill; over the top in spots, but balletic in others.
If I wanna be a high falutin critic I will say I find it derivative of Maya Deren's work, especially "The very eye of night."
So there.
but ambivalent???
hm.
Wrapped up in books
dithie at 2005-04-06 13:34 (UTC) (Link)
*shrug*
i don't like to watch violence at all, so i'd hate it.
but to each his own i suppose.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-06 13:37 (UTC) (Link)
It's less violent than, say, the book of Judges, but at least you don't have to watch that.
Although it might make a good movie.
Wrapped up in books
dithie at 2005-04-06 13:39 (UTC) (Link)
i've always thought that.
as long as they didn't let charlton heston do it.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-06 13:41 (UTC) (Link)
Amen, sister.
(Anonymous) at 2005-04-06 15:10 (UTC) (Link)
Saw it last Saturday and my jaw is back to it's normal height today. I liked it very much. It was a great one for sitting down in the front of the theater since it will not be the same on DVD.
Fares
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-06 15:12 (UTC) (Link)
Very true. Home video will not capture it at all.
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