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Habemus Papam!

Posted on 2005.04.19 at 12:06
Current Mood: excitedexcited
Current Music: Chris Thomas King - I'll Play The Blues For you
They did it! If it's Tettamanzi, my friend Bill owes me a fin...he put $5 down on Ratzinger.

Comments:


Susan
suzermagoozer at 2005-04-19 16:33 (UTC) (Link)

where there is smoke there is pope

if his name is Benedict...lets all celebrate with Eggs.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-19 16:35 (UTC) (Link)

Re: where there is smoke there is pope

Yes! Eggs for all!
uberconfused
uberconfused at 2005-04-19 17:07 (UTC) (Link)
wow, I thought for sure they'd do something intelligent like select someone from Latin America...
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-19 17:09 (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, plus they cost me $5. I did guess that the name would be Benedict, but I didn't put any money on it. That's all we people think about.
uberconfused
uberconfused at 2005-04-19 17:19 (UTC) (Link)
How'd you know they'd go Benedict? Although it makes perfect sense given that they've betrayed progressive Catholics everywhere. I don't even know why I care, as I'm not Catholic, but his selection seems like a damned shame. If I were a Latin American Catholic I'd be pissed.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-19 17:21 (UTC) (Link)
Yeah I agree with you. I don't know, I was just looking at recent Papal names, and Benedict seemed like a good one. I actually thought that if it were Ratzinger, he would be John Paul III.
uberconfused
uberconfused at 2005-04-19 17:34 (UTC) (Link)
not to mention, why would you elect a 78 year old to replace an 84 year old? We're just gonna have to go through all of this again in like 5 years.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-19 22:35 (UTC) (Link)
Well, I think that is probably more common- reigns of 5-10 years are more the norm, I guess. Besides, he was head of the holy office- who was gonna tell him no?
She Who Must Not Be Named
drenilop at 2005-04-19 19:36 (UTC) (Link)
That's precisely the point... They can use the new old guy to bridge - normally these transitional guys just act as placeholders until the Church has settled from the loss of someone who reigned that long. Ratzinger's activist archconservative approach may throw a wrench into those plans.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-19 22:33 (UTC) (Link)
I sort of thought that his past- I won't even suggest he was a nazi, and I don't think he was, but his less than heroic conduct during the war- would be too much of a contrast with JP2, who was a legit anti-nazi. Plus, no matter how you slice it, he is/was head of the inquisition!
She Who Must Not Be Named
drenilop at 2005-04-19 23:12 (UTC) (Link)
Yes, head of inquisition ... Reading another profile of him, it appears he was only in the Hitler Youth for a very brief time - he was all of 14 or so and membership had just become compulsory. He got out rather quickly when he entered seminary.
Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-19 23:15 (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I wouldn't at all say that he was enthusiastic about it at all. I am just surprised that the church wants to deal with having to explain that out over and over, which they will. Again, it does stand in contrast to JP2, who was genuinely an anti-nazi activist. They had a chance to just not have to deal with that. But hey, it's their business.
metalclarinet
metalclarinet at 2005-04-20 00:27 (UTC) (Link)
He couldn't be both a younger man and have been an active anti-nazi. I understand that he long ago addressed his past. His involvement was trivial compared to the controversy around Pius XII.

How many of you have gone after Robert Byrd for his KKK past.

As to brief transition, I don't know the mortality tables for Europeans and I don't know if he has any specific conditions or whether he smokes. I'm betting that the median remaining years for men his age is around 8.

John Paul I had a very short reign. That was -- supposedly -- one of the reasons why his successor was such a young man.

Jonathan
theservant at 2005-04-20 00:38 (UTC) (Link)
The point is that everyone knows about Byrd, and he and his supporters constantly have to address it. I am in no way saying that he was any sort of nazi supporter. It is, however, extra baggage.
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