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The best commentary on this I have seen so far

Posted on 2006.02.06 at 11:54
Current Mood: pensivepensive
Current Music: Chocolate Watchband - I'm Not Like Everybody Else
Courtesy of marlowe1
This pretty much speaks for itself, and says it all.

EDIT: I admit that I have had an emotional reaction to this whole business. If you think I am wrong, please tell me why.


Lousy with your good time...
galut_boded at 2006-02-06 17:40 (UTC) (Link)
Yep, you nailed it.
theservant at 2006-02-06 17:43 (UTC) (Link)
Well, it wasn't ME -- just a note for Omar Bakri and others trying to issue death-fatwas against the cartoonists...
Isabella Valentine
isabellaval at 2006-02-06 18:24 (UTC) (Link)
I fucking love it!!!

I've been following the whole cartoon fiasco for a while and totally agree that those Islamic extremists are out of their minds. They need to learn how to be more tolerant of other people. Lately I've been buying Danish products in effort to help Denmark's economic status since they are being boycotted. GO FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

Support Denmark
theservant at 2006-02-06 18:49 (UTC) (Link)
I like that Denmark icon- I may have to swipe it. I think we should all have a nice glass of tuborg and some of those butter cookies in the metal tin in support of Denmark. Are those cookies kosher? If not, I'll just have to double up on the tuborg.

Also, here is an article about how the Danish government rescued Jews during WW2. So, go Danes. You are great!
Isabella Valentine
isabellaval at 2006-02-06 18:57 (UTC) (Link)
yeah by all means snag it. I snagged it from a Denmark-support site. I bought a ton of Danish cheese, meats, sweets, pastries, etc. from over 5 Danish stores online to try to support them. I wanted to donate to the Jyllands-Posten newspaper personally but their site is not in English and I don't see a donate button.
sputnik5 at 2006-02-06 18:52 (UTC) (Link)
There are Muslims out there who are simply boycotting Danish products, which I think is perfectly reasonable. I mean it's equal freedom of expressions.
Isabella Valentine
isabellaval at 2006-02-06 18:55 (UTC) (Link)
Boycotting is reasonable, yes. Muslims have every right.

But for extremists to set fires to Norwegian and Danish embassies, shutting down the European Union, threatening people's lives, etc... is not reasonable.
theservant at 2006-02-06 18:57 (UTC) (Link)
I can see that, although in a country with a free press there is a disconnect between what is printed in a newspaper and things for which others may be responsible. I certainly wouldn't want to be held responsible for several recent remarks by Pat Robertson, even though both he and I are American citizens. Israel was correct, I think, to cut off all dealings with Robertson and his companies, but it would have been wrong to hold, say, me accountable for what he said. I have nothing to do with it.
But of course Muslims are free to avoid Danish products. I imagine that I don't use too many Danish products myself on a regular basis. What is necessary, I think, is for those countries and that citizenry to recognize that the media in their community do not hold to an idea that one should refrain from using hurtful and offensive images in cartoons, and so for them to demand that others do so is hypocritical.
Misty D. Hudson
mistytsim at 2006-02-06 19:22 (UTC) (Link)
You aren't wrong. At all. I'm emotional about this, and I don't have the reasons you do.

And I ganked isabellaval's banner/add as well. Also, if that is you, darling, in your first post with the black skirt and heels, I've got a girl crush.

Back to the topic... GO DENMARK!
theservant at 2006-02-06 19:24 (UTC) (Link)
I'll say it again... the Danes are great!
suzermagoozer at 2006-02-07 00:19 (UTC) (Link)
Daniel Schorr had a very interesting commentary on this very subject tonight on NPR. He said that yes, he is an advocate of the freedom of speech, but we have to acknowledge that there are limits to some speech: yelling FIRE in a crowded movie theater insights people to danger and violence.
Many news organizations have agreed not to print the cartoons, indcluding NPR, which decided not to run the cartoons on their website.
His conclusion was that it is ok to talk about the cartoons and describe them...but at this time it merely becomes the spark to the powder keg that will rage on.

the strange part for me is that these cartoons ran in September of last year. It took a while for the simmering to boil.
theservant at 2006-02-07 00:23 (UTC) (Link)
That's because Muslims decided to reprint them, along with some others that they made up, to stir people up.

I don't think we can or should refrain from saying things because they might upset people.
suzermagoozer at 2006-02-07 00:25 (UTC) (Link)
we should NEVER refrain?
or only in political situations?
suzermagoozer at 2006-02-07 00:24 (UTC) (Link)

crap i was typing faster than my brain was thinking.
theservant at 2006-02-07 00:26 (UTC) (Link)
It happens.
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