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Thought for today

Posted on 2006.08.09 at 08:16
Current Mood: contemplativecontemplative
If Hezbollah gave up its arms, there would be no fighting
If Israel gave up its arms, there would be no Israel

Comments:


gerbilsage at 2006-08-09 13:31 (UTC) (Link)
If Hezbollah gave up arms, how long do you think it would be before southern Lebanon became similar to Gaza?

It's weird that people blamed 'Lebanon/Hezbollah' for rejecting the cease-fire suggested by Israel. If America had been offered that cease-fire, it would have rejected it before the thinking music began.

- M.
eitanhalevy
eitanhalevy at 2006-08-09 15:48 (UTC) (Link)
"If Hezbollah gave up arms, how long do you think it would be before southern Lebanon became similar to Gaza?"

What does that even mean? If Hizbullah gave up it's arms then the Lebanese army could be the only armed force in Lebanon, Israel would have no reason to be involved there, and the situation could return to what it was 6 months ago, except without the occasional border clashes. What do you think would happen?
otakushan
otakushan at 2006-08-09 18:28 (UTC) (Link)
"If Hezbollah gave up arms, how long do you think it would be before southern Lebanon became similar to Gaza?"

That makes no sense at all. Israel has only ever entered Lebanon when it has been attacked from Lebanon. In 1982, the PLO had set itself up as a ministate and was launching daily attacks against Israel, while the Lebanese government looked the other way.
Israel completely pulled out of Lebanon in 2000, yet Hezbollah continued its crossborder attacks while the Lebanese government looked the other way.

If the Lebanese government asserted control over its country and stopped paramilitary groups from attacking sovereign nations from within its territory, Israel would be at peace with Lebanon.
the_van_dyck at 2006-08-09 15:32 (UTC) (Link)
I would normally bother, but you Sir are a fool.
eitanhalevy
eitanhalevy at 2006-08-09 15:51 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, please bother. His statement is so obviously true that I will take pleasure in gutting any idiotic scenario you can come up with which might counter it.
the_van_dyck at 2006-08-09 15:54 (UTC) (Link)
If Hezbollah gave up its arms, there would be no fighting
Surely you do not believe this to be the case. How long would it take for Iran, Syria or the Lebanese government themselves to find somebody else to fight on their behalf?
the_van_dyck at 2006-08-09 16:01 (UTC) (Link)
Nice comeback.
gerbilsage at 2006-08-09 16:28 (UTC) (Link)
You are factually incorrect. theservant definitely is worth the time to work out his argument. The difference between his argument and mine is merely perspective. I could see why somebody from my side would be convinced by his argument if they were intellectually honest.

- M.
the_van_dyck at 2006-08-09 16:33 (UTC) (Link)
I was perhaps initially too rash, blame the late night crazies. I am not pro anybody on this issue, and am willing to listen to. My above comments on this thread are simply my way of trying to garner more information.
Jonathan
theservant at 2006-08-09 17:28 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks. You are a scholar and a gentleman.
Jonathan
theservant at 2006-08-09 17:16 (UTC) (Link)
You would normally bother? Didn't you? Oh well. I guess I am too foolish to understand what the hell you are talking about.
eitanhalevy
eitanhalevy at 2006-08-09 15:46 (UTC) (Link)
Duh. Kol ha-kavod.
chavivaedits at 2006-08-09 18:14 (UTC) (Link)
Sad, but true, no?
jonnymoon at 2006-08-18 21:02 (UTC) (Link)
I'm rather sad to see this debate had ended.
Jonathan
theservant at 2006-08-18 22:37 (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, me too- but some interesting exchanges happened, so I think it went pretty well.
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